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35m2 mobile home from one module

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Here is visualisation based on your sketch.

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Here is visualisation

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Cristian feedback: 

 

I tried to find a solution in my sketch. I added a glass door (60 cm) in the living room between the TV and the door to the bedroom. Also a wide window in the bedroom (made of 2 openable/tiltable parts) 2x65 cm wide and 100 cm tall, starting from 150 cm above the floor. Underneath the window we will place an office desk. With this new glass door and the wide window, the from right part of the house becomes somehouse simetrical with the back left side of the house (the wall on the other side with the door between table and couch and the loft wide windows.

 

The loft windows I put on the other side (back wall) since in summer it is getting hot in that small upper space from the sun and that part of the house is placed in a corner with 2 streets and it's quite noisy. On the other side it fits better in terms of sun heat, noise and privacy.

 

You found a good solution for the access to the loft with the ladder placed there. This has been an open topic before. In my sketch I placed the ladder between the entrance door and the fridge.

 

One comment regaridng the kitchen. We need to make use of that corner with the bathroom and put the sink there to gain more space for the kitchen. That's the reason why there is a window above the kitchen sink (starting from 135 cm above the floor level) instead of a glass door.

 

According to the building regulations, all interior doors must be minimum 80 cm wide, valid for both the bathroom and bedroom. For the bathroom it would be quite inconvenient to open the door in the kitchen (in the bathroom it would be even worse). Can you put for the bathroom a sliding door, ideally which slides into the wall (towards shower), or otherwise at least sliding on the kitchen wall?

 

I changed the length of the bedroom and bathroom since we need to fit a corner couch (250 cm long) in the living room and had to make the living room larger. 237,5 cm bathroom lenth and 300 cm bedroom length is still acceptable and it allows us to have the living room long enough to fit the couch, 70 cm glass door and the eating table.

 

On the other side with the entrance I adjusted more to accomodate the ladder and a wardrobe (which was on the other side in the first version of my sketched, but now with the ladder it does not fit anymore). I think I foud a good compromise to accomodate the ladder, a wardrobe, the TV and the new 60 cm glass door toward bedroom.

 

WIth the new windows added, we can now afford from the point of view of the building regulations (surface of glass for natural ligth) to have the entrance door like a typical house (e.g. made of metal with no/small glass part), instead of a glass door which is rather unusual for a living house but rather for tiny houses. I hope you can recommend some providers for such a modern entrance door.

 

I added in the sketch also the place for the interior AC units, i.e. abov ethe bedroom door on both sides. Unless you have other idea, we could place the multisplit AC exterior unit outside wehre the TV is placed, not far from the 2 interior units. I remember you said in Bratislava that it is not good to fix the exteriro unit on the house wall, but rather on its own pillara due to vibrations. Since now we have a larger house with a more powerfull external unit, I think it is better and probably even required for the building approval not t be fixed on the house wall.

 

The bedroom exterior glass door I reduced to 80 cm since we now have enough natural light from the wide horizontal window (2x65 cm wide, 100 cm high starting from 150 cm from floor level, above the office desk). This helps also for a larger closet and also to accomodate the large wide window (overall 130 cm wide made of 2 openable and tiltable parts) between the bedroom acess door and the outside glass door, which are voth 80 cm wide and aligned in term of position form the external wall.

 

I hope you agree with these changes which I tried to make to provide the needed comfort in the living room, to accomodate both the couch, the ladder and teh wardrobe, plus the additional 60 cm glas door. In terms of outside design I hope it looks a bit better with the new 60 cm glass door and the new wide bedroom window. We are somehow simetrical with the glass door/windows on the back left side and fron right side - of course not looking at the bathroom window which we cannot remove.

 

I am looking forward to your feedback. In case you can make these changes, it would help a lot to adjust the visualisations for a better feeling before we share the plan with the Austrian authorized engineer for the building approval documentation. By the way, for the foundation (both house and covered terrace) also the Austrian enginner recommended to chose the metal screws solution which is easier to get approved without strict requirements for concrete dimensions and strength and it allows also for more flexible digging for the water/drain/electricity).

 

In terms of electricity connection, I was thinking to place the power box above the entrance door since there is enough height there and does not occupy wall parts where we can put furniture.

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Comments floorplan

Thanks a lot for the new version, it looks very nice. We have few comments, marked also in the attached floorplan:

1. The bedroom window should be aligned in the middle of the room, which means 85 cm distance from both walls.

2. Between the couch and table should be a glass door instead of window. The door should open the other way - i.e. towards the couch.

3. The bathroom window should open the other way - i.e. towards the shower. The window should be moved further towards the washing machine, keeping a distance of 62 cm from the wall.

4. The bathroom sliding door should be 200-205 cm tall to allow for 5-10 cm space above. The door should be placed more towards the sink, keeping 62 cm distance.

5. The kitchen window should open the other way - i.e. towards bathroom and should be 70 cm wide (as far as I can see in the small picture, it looks there like 75 cm wide which would overlap too much with the bathroom door when the window is open)

6. I am not sure what is the distance now between the entrance door and the kitchen, but we need to keep at least 10 cm space for the ladder.

7. The loft window (the left part) should align with the below bathroom window, i.e. 62 cm from the wall. It looks like this: 62 cm distance to the wall, 70 cm left part of the window, 70 cm rigth part of the window, then some space (approx. 30 cm) to the edge of the loft.

Thanks a lot for making all these adjustments. We arte trying to maximize the utility of such a small space.

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Floor insulation

I have a question related to the floor insulation in this picture. Is it 150 mm insulation within the frame plus 50 mm insulation above the frame between the OSB 25 and floor heating, or it is 200 mm insulation within the frame? thanks for clarifying

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@mhouse Floor??? Where do you see  Cris 150? I see there 200

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@chalany It was clarified below by George, thanks. The text below the picture with 150 cm was outdated.

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We still have a question about the loft height.
It needs to be made higher, because reducing the height of the doors is undesirable. 2.1m is standard.
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I think that the height should be 2.2m in order to be able to build a frame over the openings.
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Thanks for the detailed picture with the loft height. We are already at the minimum with the height inside the loft. Unfortunately we cannot go below 1 meter which is already tricky for sitting in the loft, considering that there will be also a matress which further reduces sitting height. I marked in the uploaded picture that the height of the walls should be exchanged - the tallest heigth should be for the wall with the house entrance & kitchen. This means that the rainwater should flow towards the back of the house

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If I understand correctly, this side is more suitable for lighting?

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@george I understand your point. We prefer to not put any windows on that wall to avoid windows above the sleeping couch. Thanks for your understanding

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@george . You are right, it looks better with a window there. I am uploading later a sketch with a window including position and sizes. Thanks a lot

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@george . Your idea yesterday was very good. It looks better from outside to put a window above the couch. I marked in the attached picture the place of the window (20 cm distance to the couch door, window starting at 140 cm above floor level) and sizes (70 cm high, 130 cm long, made of 2 openable/tiltable parts). Hence the upper part is aligned with the door, at 210 cm height.

Additionally I changed the starting point of the bedroom window, now starting like the couch window at 140 cm above floor level. I also chnaged the heigth (70 cm instead of 100 cm before) to be aligned at the upper part with the doors, at 210 cm height. Hence it looks better from outside.

I marked these changes (couch window and bedroom window) in the uploaded floor plan. All changes you made earlier today look great, thanks a lot. Sorry to bother you now withe these 2 changes with the windows. I hope you also find it better now in terms of look from outside.

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1. The window in the kitchen is 700 - this is the width.
2. The frame in the floor is 200mm, this is an incorrect inscription from an old project. Corrected.
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@george Thanks a lot for your clarifications

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Covered Terrace @george 

I am uploading here a first sketch for the covered terrace.

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 I am thinking of something which can be prefabricated in 2 halves (2 parts for the floor, 2 parts for the roof, plus 6 pillars) before the delivery and transported on a trailer. The parts should be easily joined at destination. The covered terrace needs to have a porch and handrails (100 cm high) all around the whole terrace to protect from falling down.

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 I am uploading some pictures as inspiration for the covered terrace - e.g. for overall style (picture 1), floor (picture 2), roof/pillars (picture 3). I hope you can design and build something like this, prefabricated and easy to transport and install quickly at destination. Thank you.

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Greatings!

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@george Thanks a lot, it looks amazing! 

Just a minor remark: the window at the couch and bedroom should start at 140 cm height from the floor. But you don't need to change it now, just to keep this in mind when building the house.

Have a nice weekend.

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I think I misunderstood yesterday the 130 cm from the floorplan, which refers to the window length, not the height from the floor (to which my comment above reffered). Sorry for my mistake. 

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Change bathroom
Change loft

I measured today a washing machine and realized that we need at least 1 meter width to be able to open the door enough to add/take out clothes. Currently the space there is too tight, therefore I added 8 cm length for the bathroom - now 2450 mm - to have more space between the washing machine and WC. With this change, we have 700 mm instead of 620 mm distance from the wall for the bathroom window and bathroom door. The 8 cm we compensate by reducing the door between the couch and table to 650 mm (instead of 700) and the table width to 630 mm (instead of 660).

The 8 cm change for the bathroom affects also the width of the loft and the window distance to the wall. I marked these changes on the floorplan, uploaded here.

Looking again at the terrace top view, I realized that it is not fully covered. Can you please add a metal roof to the terrace, similar to the one of the house (of course not so thick).

I hope this does not cause you too much effort. Thanks a lot and sorry for any inconvenience. Have a nice weekend!

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Hello!
I am attaching it!

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@george Thanks a lot, it looks great!

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